Curse

Studio Ghibli · Feb 06, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Howdy,

Just because I've suffered another awful run with newblets, I feel compelled to make this post, a post I've seen a number of times over already.

Here we go!

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1) They know when your health is low, so don't bother spamming it. Don't bother spamming "heal me," either. Again, the monk is aware your health is low. If they're not healing you, they probably have energy issues, are running from an aggro that someone failed to control, or is otherwise occupied.

2) The monk recognizes when you're dead. There's no need to say, "Hey, I'm dead!" or "Res me!" The monk needs no reminder. Seriously.

3) Insulting the monk isn't the best thing in the world. If they're having trouble healing you, you're probably doing something wrong, and insulting them is only going to make them not want to heal you. If you're taking a lot of damage, figure out why, and try to resolve it.

4) There exist monks out there besides "healing" monks. A monk can do more than "heal" to be effective. While ArenaNet has done a wonderful job of nerfing enchantments, these spells can still out-do healing spells when used properly. That's not to say that healing has no place on a monk's bar. Just that, hey, if you find a prot monk, don't immediately think he's worthless and demand they switch "all heal plz."

5) This one's a biggie for me, so it's worth repeating.

Don't spam "heal me." Don't tell me to heal you. As a monk, I'm aware of your health, and I know what to do about it. I don't tell you to attack that monster or use that skill. If you feel uncomfortable with the monk's abilities to keep you healed at maximum health 100% of the time (which is unlikely; a monk's duty is to simply keep everyone alive), then bring a self-heal.

Your monk -will- appreciate it.

And understand--if there's a point when the monk's ability to mitigate damage is being outpaced by the damage itself, there is probably a problem beyond the monk itself. Why isn't aggro being focused? Why are the soft-targets taking that much damage? What could -we- as a team be doing to make this fight easier besides spamming "MONK HEAL ME" until everyone is dead.

6) When your monk says wait, WAIT. There are no ifs/ands/or/buts about this. Your monk is designed to keep the party alive. If your monk says wait, there's probably a good reason as to why they need a moment.

7) Being a monk is a very ungrateful job. In most mission areas, you see plenty of warriors, a good number of rangers, et cet... but only a handful of monks. Why's this? If people aren't telling you HOW to do your job or HOW much you suck, they're not telling you much at all.

Thank your monk once and awhile, and recognize that they have a very tough job. Anywhere from four to eight people in a group, and only so much energy--and if the group doesn't understand the concept of aggro management, things can become dicey fast.

.. and I think that's about it.

[name removed to respect privacy], this post is dedicated to you, as well as the w/mo of the party.

And, don't forget, I was right when I said those two groups weren't auto-aggro.

Harmony · Feb 06, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

/signed..TWICE

As a protection monk, I wholeheartedly agree with and thank you for the post. I could not have said it better myself!

Kaguya · Feb 06, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Too bad the people that should be reading this aren't reading the forums

Got an idea from this tho, I'll start spamming 'attack that monster' when someone spams 'heal me'

Malchior Devenholm · Feb 06, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Let all ppl read this plz.....respect the monk's authoritI

MinaDrakul · Feb 06, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07

/signed three times and add in a signet of Approval

When I played a healing monk(up till about a week ago), it was extremely difficult. It made me appreciate what all those monks out there do. If you have issues with a monk, make one and try it out. Come back to me in a month and tell what you think then.

Ju_Smurph · Feb 06, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

isnt the internet wonderful, it gives everyone in the world for their opinions to be heard / read all over the world, its just a shame that people choice that voice to bitch...

yes, "bitch" as in "whiny 8 year old" (the term 'rant' is the biggest load of bs ever)...

I'm also not clear on the rules of the forum but i always thought it was bad to post peoples IGN...

Try putting your abilities towardsds something constructive.

I see the "face" of this post i agree with, thought it's nothing new. However; the reason behind it...

Anraeth · Feb 06, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

ive gotten so much of the res me heal me before. (sometimes i just let them die a few times xD)

Rilder · Feb 06, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

*randomly insert an Eric Cartman "Respect my authoritay" from southpark*

Seriously guys, simply put, MONKS RULE GUILD WARS, if i had a monk i'd make everyone in the group /kneel to me and the other monk. =D

Sai of Winter · Feb 06, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Yes, appreciation for the Monks! We have a majority of responsibility to keep the party alive and party members need to take it easy on us. Also, take it easy on new players who started the game and playing the Monk class as their first character. Monk power!

I've always wonder....how come nobody uses a smiting Monk (if they have two other Monks already for healing and protecting) in their party? O_o

Ensign · Feb 06, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

If you're monking and some pompous idiot starts calling for heals or otherwise tells you how to do his job, start calling targets and screaming at them to kill whatever you called. Repeat until they get pissed off and shut up.

Peace,
-CxE

Juicey Shake · Feb 06, 2006, 07:51 AM // 07:51

ensign's methods worked for my monk in my first month of playing.

And then I found these things called henchmen, and illusion magic and smiting prayers, and I was oh so happy.

Reks · Feb 06, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

As a monk, I really do hate the "heal me" comments. Well, I AM. The problem is is that you're dying too fast because you aggroed 3 mobs.

Another comment that bugs me is something to the effect of, "You do your job and I'll do mine." To me that's just borderline rude. I dunno, it just irks me. =/ Perhaps I have a problem with being told what to do. From strangers anyways.

Sinborn · Feb 06, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

I think I need to extend my search-function and see if there is a smiter's manifesto that I can quote and trout-slap with +_+.

But since I'm often forced to bring some minor healing for self-preservation purposes, I guess the Twinkie falls under this nugget of constantly-reiterated knowledge.

DOCB22 · Feb 06, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

AMEN!!!!!!!!! op

Amadei · Feb 06, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Dear fellow players:

I can't heal you when you run off the radar and engage a mob far, far away from the rest of us.

Absolutely no love,
Your monk.

Harmony · Feb 06, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Do what I do..sit, or dance, whatever your preference. To quote:

"I can't heal/protect you if you choose to rush ahead, especially if my energy is low. Therefore, I am useless at the moment and since you are invincible and can do without me as shown by your rushing, then I shall just sit here until you die. By then, my energy should be up enough to rez you..maybe"

And for the person who thinks that this is 'just bitching', I agree with Mina. Play a monk for a month and then get back to me with that one.

Ju_Smurph · Feb 06, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45

I have a monk.... I run FoW (heal) with it all the time...
Look at the title ANOTHER respect me thread as if those that should be taught are gonna read this. It's like a union meeting, all the poor little monks get together and have a collective cry... "no one loves me"

Yes their are morons out there... deal with it properly. If you want to asert authority try the "teabag, with the sit emote,or put them on unyielding" i dear you to run off again! you have the power. If you have an idiot run off... let him run off, he will learn, or drop out when you don't res him.

"Im also mighty and people should respect me like a god but instead I choose(sp?) to whinge". When was the last time you respect a whinger? Want my respect, earn it!

Zehnchu · Feb 06, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

MM : why didn’t you bring heal area for my minions!
Me : because I’m not an MM.

MM (without heal area) : HEALING MONK! (dies just as I cast to heal) your supposed to heal me why didn’t you!
Me : lets see would it be because the whole group was way over there and you where way over here.

Warrior : why did you let me die.
Me : hey I did the best I could with 5 energy, if you would have listened when I said wait.

Ranger : why didn’t you heal my pet.
Me : ok next time I’ll let you die and keep your pet alive.

Ranger (dies I rez) : don’t do that
Me : ok
Warrior : why didn’t you rez the ranger.
Me : he told me not to.

warrior : monks call energy when it’s low.
Me : 0 of 67
Warrior runs off to next group

Mesmer (who has to be in the middle of battle) : why don’t you help out
Me : because I am keeping you alive, I can stop healing
Mesmer: never mind.

“player is dead”
Me : I can see that

Me ( using all energy keeping him alive) is your armor infused?
Warrior : yeah,
Me : what armor are you wearing?
Warrior : pre-sear
Me : no wonder it take all my energy to keep you alive.

The joys of being a monk,

Harmony · Feb 06, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph

I have a monk.... I run FoW (heal) with it all the time...
Look at the title ANOTHER respect me thread as if those that should be taught are gonna read this. It's like a union meeting, all the poor little monks get together and have a collective cry... "no one loves me"

Yes their are morons out there... deal with it properly. If you want to asert authority try the "teabag, with the sit emote,or put them on unyielding" i dear you to run off again! you have the power. If you have an idiot run off... let him run off, he will learn, or drop out when you don't res him.

"Im also mighty and people should respect me like a god but instead I choose(sp?) to whinge". When was the last time you respect a whinger? Want my respect, earn it!

I don't think of myself as mighty, nor do I particularly care if I am seen as such. I do, however, agree with your statements about 'monk control'. As I stated in my post, the 'sit' is a wonderful way to handle it if people go rushing off. They die, not my problem. Unyielding aura is also another good option, thank you for bringing that up.

You play a monk? Well kudos to you then, you deserve it.

Makkert · Feb 06, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph

Yes their are morons out there... deal with it properly. If you want to asert authority try the "teabag, with the sit emote,or put them on unyielding"

I remember using Unyielding once. Most fun I ever had with my monk.

~Riverside Mission~
3 guildies meet up
guildie1(g1): Do we want PuP's or Henchies?
g2: henchies. usually better.
me: PuP's. I feel like being entertained.
g2: and then be screwed over by an idiot?
me: I'll pack Unyielding to be sure.
g1: ok.
~invites a few pup's~
warrior pup runs off like a chicken without a head, and gets killed.
I res with Unyielding
war: wtf? Unyielding? Don't you know how this game works?
me: I do. that's why you are placed under unyielding
~ next fight war almost succeeds in dragging back to much aggro to the party, a quick doubleclick prevents this and he falls dead ~
war: wtf?
me: be a good boy now

after a little time he got it, and we didn't have any troubles after. I could savely res him with the other res spell i also had.